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i think alongside Palin, the grand tour lads are internationally the most recognizable British tv personalities, to the general public, at least among the over 30s

I’m waiting for a Brooklands to come up at auction at these prices

Grown "men", with child brains. Fascinated with the "pros" of the NEW TECH, while ignoring the "cons". Like jiggling a set of shiney keys in front of an infant. At the turn of the previous century, gas powered automobiles replaced horseless carriages, and surpassed electric & steam powered vehicles, because there was no government intervention to sway the free market choice of motorists. Gas powered was superior in every way, and has been constantly improved ever since. Hydrogen is a pipe dream. Until a tech breakthrough allows the H to be kept in a liquid form at room temp & pressure, there is no hope for it. It will remain a fascinating "possibility" for children & corrupt politicians. It takes more energy input to produce the H, than the energy output available from it. No doubt, you think that energy difference will be obtained through solar & wind. Ignorance unmitigated. If your child brains must fixate on "alternate" power systems, look to flywheel energy storage. It is not suitable at its current tech state. But, with sufficient research, it has a viable chance of working. Unlike H, chemical batteries, & hybrids. Do you damn fools understand, many child people will listen to your drivel and "believe". Have you no shame, integrity, character, or honor? You probably believe there's a "perpetual motion" machine out there somewhere, if only the "Big Auto Conspiracy" would allow it. And you are allowed to vote. Despicable.

If you think the lack of charging stations sucks in the UK, I invite you to visit Canada outside of one of our 5 major cities. To get to my province's capital from where I live, I have to drive 750km. There are precisely 0 charging stations on the way. Our area has a population of roughly 85-100k people, so it isn't exactly an empty wasteland, yet we have no chargers, at all. It also gets rather cold here, several -45°C days a year isn't rare, with 3 months of basically -30°C. I'm really curious how many charges it would take to get to Winnipeg at -45.

EVs are rich man's toys.

The BMW V8 was from the e38 shorty sporty 740Li. The old push rod was 300kg heavier at the front, because they had to strengthen the nose and it ended up handling like even more of a pig. And then the engines all reliably failed at 30k. Many owners only found out after warranty ended, cause they had other cars and drove the Arnage only a few thousand miles a year. VW only really sorted things in 2005 with the face lift, but then they had turned the Arnage into an Audi A8 parts bin special Frankstein car. Still the most desirable of the bunch, but driven back to back with a 2007 S-class, 7 series or A8, found woefully inadequate dynamically. Really Arnages of any vintage are only for those who appreciate the exterior looks and interior feel, and don't mind a 20-25 year old car with 30-50 year old technology with horrendous running costs. I own one, which over the past 6 years has somehow clocked up 20k kilometers driving to and from the mechanic.

What about the Turbo R 🤔

As with all things, progressives are wrong on this issue.

In fairness, it does depend on what country you live in. I think the concerns expressed are very UK-centric, which is fine because it's a UK-centric channel, but you should be careful painting infrastructure issues that are specifically British as "problems" with BEVs as a technology, when actually they're more representative of governments failing to effectively support electrification. For example, I live in France and the charger installation progress has been incredibly rapid over the last 18 months. To illustrate how quickly things have changed: We've had an EV for about 5 years now. The first one was a Renault Zoé that couldn't fast-charge and had a range of about 180 miles, so we only used it for ducking about, and it was brilliant for that. Was a perfect replacement for the Panda we had, even saved us money in the end. (I kept a spreadsheet, so I know this.) Charging infrastructure was patchy, but we didn't care because we mostly charged at home (still do, actually). We now have an MG4, which has about 280 miles of range, if you drive it carefully in Eco mode. In reality I probably do about 230 miles and then stop somewhere, but it charges plenty quickly enough, so we use it for everything! The first time we did a long journey with it we had plenty of what James rightly refers to as recharging anxiety. Although it was perfectly doable, it wasn't ideal, we ended up charging in a Lidl car park at some point on the way home. However, at the time (and this was only 14 months ago) almost all the motorway service stops had brand new fast chargers still wrapped in cellophane and off-line. Fast forward 3 months and they were all operational. So the *second* long journey we did, some months later, no problem at all. And now we routinely drive to Italy and have no issues stopping and charging when we need to. My experience leads me to I disagree with the idea that we'll need "millions" of chargers. We certainly DON'T need millions of fast chargers. There are two categories of BEV charging requirements - "I'm halfway to somewhere and I want to recharge fast", and "I'm here all day/night so charging can take a while". The vast majority of use cases fall into the latter category. For fast charging, there's about 400 motorway or near-motorway service stations in the UK with, say, a dozen pumps each. So you'd probably want about 20,000 fast charging points in those same service areas to replace the 5,000 pumps, just to allow for the fact people are on them for 20 minutes rather than 5 minutes. And once you're off the motorway you're never very far from where you're going, so you fall into the second category, as long as you know you can charge when you get where you're going, no problem, right? And for that we need to STOP putting charging points in library car parks and market squares, and instead focus on making sure each lamp post has a couple of ordinary, low-powered domestic and/or type 2 sockets on it (see Westminster). Then there's no "recharging anxiety" on long journeys, because the motorways and A-roads have plenty of charging points, and when you get to where you're going you can recharge gently while you're parked, by plugging into a 10-16A kerbside socket, or at your work or your home, if you can. I don't see charging points as a huge barrier to BEV take-up, in fact I'm seeing here in France that it *isn't* a barrier with a bit of sensible planning. Sadly there seems to have been precious little of that in the UK to date, when it comes to planning BEV charging infrastructure and what people really need and where they need it.

Cheap to buy not cheap to maintain

Im just here to read the sooky comments from 4C owners stoutly attempting to justify the crap car they bought 😂

Do Alonso

Energy storage isn't the answer. On-demand energy production is, was, and will always be what motivates us.

Agreed.. i went to California and there are barely any charging stations, many don’t work etc. Works well at home with full charge but it’s useless for anyone actually driving distances…

How can Porsche be SO STUPID to go full electric?! Never ever i would buy that shit, other than naturally aspirated petrol.

Schumacher ran traction control from the very beginning of 94 . Senna saw it during pre-season testing but Frank Williams/Renault weren’t prepared to cheat . Senna tried desperately to keep up with the cheat, running his car lower than Damon etc . The rest is history . Adelaide was the final straw. Good driver but a defective personality .

The Mercedes team owes a significant amount to Schumacher in building and developing them as a squad ready to launch in the new F1 Regs from 2013

I guess I’m getting old. I respect these, but neither particularly interest me. I would love to have a 430 scud or 458 speciale though.

If Elon is such the altruistic he says he is giving away free patterns why didn't he just standardised the battery shape and design for replacement rather than recharge. Then it's turn up have some machine unlock and remove your old battery and replace it with a freshly charged one. Then the old battery goes into a recharging station and it's cycle through like that. Simples.

I'd take the artura over the M2, it's just more my kind of car

Couldn’t deal with that hideous screen.

Dont understand why these guys haven't been knighted. Brought us years of laughter and unforgettable moments. I want to see it.

This is why i think hybrids where the engine just charges a battery and motor drives the wheels makes the most sense like current Honda hybrids or Chevy volts

I had a 2004 sedan in blue and absolutely loved it. A sleeper performance car and enjoyable daily driver that cheered me up. It did everything I needed. I miss the feeling it gave when starting it up and hearing the rumble of potential.

You lost me at "one paragraph". It's an Alfa Romeo not an Audi. If you care about that, buy something else. You'll never understand.

Who really cares ? Wheel out an M car and suddenly ALL OWDIES become totally and utterly irrelevant. As do people who THINK Owdies are actually any good ...Dream on Cream Puffs !!! Celebrating Shitboxes..haha what a pastime ......Get A life !!!

I think the "imbalance" is the whole charm. There are three different ways in which two can gang up on the third. With two it's always the same dynamic.

Sorry gents have to respectfully disagree and as an owner (at one time) of both, to include a new Spyder RS, I feel the car is on another planet. The GTS 0-60 @ 4.3 vs. 3.2 for the Spyder feels significantly slower at launch and when you add sports tuned (yet not rock like) suspension and the harmonic sound of the air intake, feels for me, simply more involved, engaging, and spine tingling. Yes people say "what about the roof if it starts to rain", I simply say the roof is a pain and my smart phone actually has a weather app that is pretty reliable. Love your content, regardless, and always fun to anticipate your next Vlog.

2 fantastic supercars, but the charm of Ferrari is very strong, Ferrari my favorite

You’re gonna miss it. Is there a better compliment? Thank you.

Great review Steve.

Nope, Carrera 2.7 RS beats them both (and many other cars) hands down imo.

I have been following Dan and Andrew for years. Dan will always reply to any questions you ask him about motoring all the time. Great videos and motoring content are always done by these guys.

Wrong. It’s not charge anxiety but range anxiety. Charging is an issue but don’t get confused with the two.

Totally agree with James 👌👏

Why isn't the manual the best ever? Why can't BMW put in the investment for driving passion? Maybe we all know the answer...

It's steering is like a racing car, not forgiving for posers who don't know how to drive sports cars. No one dares to make sport cars that requires skills to drive anymore (remember the old Porsche 930 turbos). Car companies need to coddle their rich fat customers with all sorts of luxuries in their "sport cars". Sports cars should not be easy to drive. If you want to climb Everest, don't expect to go up in a escalator with soft drink station at every 500 ft!

There is nothing wrong with the Alfa 4C. It was built with a purpose and it achieved that purpose, an affordable, fun, lightweight and focuesed sports car. It's not meant to be everything to everyone. You will notice that most of the media and car blogs who unfairly criticize the 4C are from the UK. They are likely jealous and bitter that Italian infringed on Lotus' home turf by building a lightweight sports car. All the complaints and criticism in this clip also applies to the Elise, Exige. Double standard at it best.🙄

Love the podcast but the English bias is a bit much. Adelaide he just drove the racing line and Hill was dumb enough to dive into a disappearing gap. Today it would give him Ocon like penalties😂. Jerez was 200% disgrace and his punishment was well deserved.

This video made me wonder if I'd prefer something like an RX8 over this car.

I'll be saving up and going after a manual M2. Hopefully in a year or two I can pick up a refreshed CPO 2025. Tech, power, reliability, enough engagement, practicality, mods etc.

Nothing has failed - nothing! (except the stuff that would drive you absolutely mad)

Very interesting, and one statistic that has been left out. He never had a crash with a teammate. You show me a person who has no flaws and I'll show you a robot. Lewis it's never my fault and when it is it's one of those thing's Hamilton, has banzai'd into teammate, could have killed Max at silverstone which was even more blatant that Senna on Prost, and for a season or two played bumping car's with Mass. When i doesn't like a question he looks like a pyschopath. Lewis's action's aren't quzzed or put under the microscope in the same way. There's a yt vid of Lewis's brain fart moment's. He's no cleaner or faultless as f1 talking head's make out. The goat for me is between Senna and schumi. Reason being they won race's they had no right to win, in car's that in anyone else's hand wouldn't have., Ross joined ferrari in 97 lads not 96.

Great review 👍👍

What a turd

For Michael’s stunning ability in wet conditions, check out what he did in Monaco and Spa in 1997. Seeing him build gaps to P2 of 10, 20, 30 seconds in a handful of laps was just incredible.

Great video, this kind of half vlog style is great, but the exterior shots really deserve more than RUclips's low bitrate "720p."

I know it's a sort of confirmation bias for me, but I'm glad to be hearing someone I like and respect express a ton of the same thoughts I've had about Hydrogen and Batteries. I still think Hydrogen is the way forward, but without a doubt we need to start producing more Green Hydrogen, and more fueling stations.

I feel like car journos always praise long term cars. Whether it is to appease manufacturers for commercial purposes or is genuine praise, I couldn't say. I just hope it is the latter.

This vehicle could be the sweetest thing ever made, but it's unforgivably ugly. It looks like a minecraft vehicle that hasn't finished rendering. What a shame.